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Summary Minutes:Regular City Commission Meeting November 15,2012 City of Sunny Isles Beach,Florida <br /> Mr.Kasdin said the easement would be 7 feet wide by 36 feet in length for a total of 252 feet. <br /> He would request the granting of this easement to allow the construction of this means of <br /> egress and ingress. As you can also see by the elevation that it is cantilevered over the <br /> ground so that actually only a small portion even touches the ground with landscaping <br /> underneath and alongside the building. This item is for discussion with the understanding <br /> that the Commission would give direction to the City Attorney and City staff as to the terms <br /> and conditions that are acceptable to it for entering into an easement and thereafter we can <br /> just execute a document between the City. <br /> Mayor Edelcup said he did not believe that would be possible tonight, and Mr. Kasdin said <br /> he knows but this is just direction as to the terms, not approval of the easement. Mayor <br /> Edelcup said we are having a discussion tonight,the item has to be scheduled and put on our <br /> schedule for perhaps the December meeting but we would not do anything that is not <br /> properly noticed. Mr.Kasdin said in any event the most important thing is an understanding <br /> of the terms that we have a meeting of the minds. With respect to evaluation,we have had <br /> some discussion on that as well. We look at City property as being a property of the size of <br /> 37,933 square feet including uplands and submerged lands. It was purchased for <br /> approximately $3 Million but of course property values are less today, and Mayor Edelcup <br /> asked him not to go there as property values are whatever a buyer and a seller agree to. Mr. <br /> Kasdin said okay but he would like to just put out their theory as to valuation, the value of <br /> the property today is$2 Million which is a number that was discussed between the City and <br /> the Chabad in the last few months. That yields a value of $52 per square foot with an <br /> easement of 252 feet times$52 a square foot we come to a value of$13,000,and they think it <br /> is an appropriate value. Mayor Edelcup said first of all we have got to delay this whole thing <br /> because he has a memo here from our own Engineer raising some questions as to what we <br /> can do on this property. He is willing to listen to the presentation but he can assure him that <br /> we will not be making a decision tonight because we still have some questions at staff level. <br /> City Attorney Ottinot asked City Engineer Helen Gray to address those issues, and Mr. <br /> Kasdin said that his architect and the City Engineer have discussed this. <br /> City Engineer Helen Gray said that she did meet with both the Rabbi and then his architect <br /> with respect to this. The Architect went through some particulars and you will see that the <br /> exhibit contained in the backup originally had the bottom of those stairs landing straight on a <br /> storm drain grate, which was a fatal flaw. They did amend the drawings to show a <br /> cantilevered staircase down and while it is not optimal it is also not fatally flawed and so to <br /> that extent certainly that has mitigated the biggest concern. We talked about elevation <br /> differential between egress from the garage exiting out onto City property has to be addressed <br /> within their building. To the extent that the City may have to go in and either maintain, <br /> repair or replace portions of that storm sewer,we would want some release of liability so that <br /> we are not responsible for any inadvertent damage that might occur to their building. They <br /> have not commenced structural design so it is difficult to tell what those impacts might be. <br /> She would ask that no trees be planted within ten(10)feet of the storm drainage system,and <br /> as they go through they will be reviewing an approval process like all projects. There may <br /> be some conditions imposed by other jurisdictional agencies or the City's Building <br /> Department that may result in some changes to what they are proposing. <br /> 25 <br />
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